Wednesday, October 1, 2008

Brendan's Contribution 3

The fact is that the opinions of 3rd parties DONT matter. Not to me, and not to the vast, vast majority of American voters. Why? Because they are wrong? No, although as I said from what Ive heard of Mr. Nader's ideas I have not been impressed.

They do not matter because they dont join a team and play ball with the rest of us. They are the ones standing in the bleachers heckling players in a difficult, intense game, all doing the best they can, while they stand there and take pot shots in the shade, fat and lazy. These third party folks MUST not want me to take their ideas seriously, otherwise they would join a team and get in the game.

So I might agree TOTALLY with Nader, but it doesnt matter. Thats right, it matters not. Because Nader doesnt take ME and MY VOTE seriously enough to join a team so that he actually has a shot at having his ideas make a difference in society. Im forced to choose between candidates that I dont agree with - not because our system is corrupt, but because Nader decides not to play by the rules.

Truthfully, though, I dont think "most people agree more with third parties." If most, or just more, people agreed with Nader then youd here more candidates talking like him, or you might just find the Democrats absorm him into their own party, or the Green Party suddenly has a massive following - none of which are actually happening. Nader is fringe, he's "out there," Im afraid, which is yet another reason he's not getting a chance to be president -- because most Americans think he's wrong.

And who knows? Maybe one day an independent will be president -- we do have independent Senators, after all. But she or he wont be president because they sit on the sidelines and heckle and say the system is corrupt and corporations and military and corporate militaries and military corporations. She or he will win because they get on the stump and campaign and convince most people theyre right.

And dont knock poli sci school, dude, come on now. Lets be civil. Ive been to poli sci school and Im going to one of the best poli sci schools next year. The kids there are there because theyve worked hard and care enough to learn about our system from the experts. Almost everyone there wants to work for change of some kind (why go to poli sci school to defend the status quo?). Theyre good, very idealistic people working and striving to change things for the better, however they may view "the better." Theyre idealists, not scheemers. So be nice to the poli sci kids, okay?

I think that brings my total contribution to somewhere around $0.06.

5 comments:

anxiousorganizer said...
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DEBATE THE DEBATE! said...

there was no knock on poly sci school. You read that wrong.

I'm saying that one of the few ways to change the structure is going through the system (starting as an undergrad in poly sci sschool) and then flipping at the end when you get the presidency. But you'd have to be really smart to make it that far and not be called out.

So I don't think that will work. You can attempt to get non-corporate dems in power but unlikely considering they have been conditioned by their education... as we all have...

So to change the system we other ideas coming in. other ideas that you dont; hear from the main two partys...

DEBATE THE DEBATE! said...

I've read your contributions Brendan and I don't think you can contribute effectively considering you don;t know about the third party ideas and don;t want to know anything about them.

Sounds like homophobic not wanting to hear anything about homosexuals so he doesn't learn to grow and learn and stays a homophobe...

DEBATE THE DEBATE! said...

also may I add, that the ideals of third parties do matter, or is wouldn't piss you off so much that third parties have influence.

Since they have influence they matter.

They act as watchdogs to keep the main parties more honest. Also they spread ideas around that otherwise would not be on the table.

They matter to so many. In fact, most people in the us agree with third parties ideals but don;t vote for them because they either know nothing about the third party (aka brendan) or they are lead to believe that they are throwing their vote away. but again voting for what you believe in only strengthens your parties ideals in the world and HAS INFLUENCE!

Thus again, they matter.

anxiousorganizer said...

You can lead a horse to water... I wonder what would happen if people everywhere would take up the practice of questioning everything all of the time. Because, every time an individual gets out of the proverbial box and engages in critical and creative thought, something original and fascinating is bound to happen... When universities were first formed, the point was this; to engage people in progressive thought processes that would propel the human family foward and renew our resolve to improve our collective lot. Of course, after a while the educational process becomes diluted and formulaic. Inevitably, one or more people will give the collegiate experience a shot in the arm via some perposterous declaration like; the right to die on ones own terms or that the earth is actually round and the sun is not the center of the Universe. The ivory tower burns and the phoenix perdictably arises from the desecration, renewed.
You do not have to appreciate any of this but the irrepresible socio-political evolution of any nation is necessary for it's survival. The United States of America(My beloved) is being called on by it's current circumstances to evolve or...
That We have every reason to welcome a third party into our broken and tired political system should go without saying.